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egocentric by PsycheAnamnesis egocentric by PsycheAnamnesis
pictures of painted abstractions, artist unknown

“Most humans are still in the grip of the egoic mode of consciousness: identified with their mind and run by their mind. If they do not free themselves from their mind in time, they will be destroyed by it. They will experience increasing confusion, conflict, violence, illness, despair, madness. Egoic mind has become like a sinking ship. If you don’t get off, you will go down with it.”
- Eckhart Tolle
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Urus-28 Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
It's a shame that the artist is unknown the result is really interesting :p
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PsycheAnamnesis Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2012
I tried to decipher the signature and searched various combinations of the artist's name online, but nothing came up. I was so curious myself to see more of his/her work, but perhaps it's just one of those artists that remain anonymous, in obscurity.
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Urus-28 Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yes perhaps, it's a shame... :|
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martaraff Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012
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in2ni Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
However, egoism may be consubstantial to living beings? A natural mechanism selected by evolution? How to get rid of it without ceasing to live - actually or metaphorically?
And how to stop identifying with one's mental? If possible - what is being freed then from one's mind, if it is not the mind?
Please do not consider these questions as negative criticism toward these thoughts, which I am tempted to join. These are genuine, inner personal concerns... until now, without answers.
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jaiquanfayson Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
Maybe you would be interested in great philosophers Thomas Hobbes and geniuses like Friedrich Nietzsche, both of whom approved of egoism. Nietzche in fact had a profound effect on Sigmund Freud who is widely known for originating the theory of Id, ego and super-ego. The only way to learn is to read! There is no such thing as spirit. noone has ever seen one, rely on science experience and fact based logic and you will find your way! As an artist, a human and an advocate of the reality of life reason and science, I offer you to read and think hard about reality and not ideals or mythical concepts such as spirit. Eckhart Tolle is a wacko who is lost in an attempt to make money and find some new age religion, but religion has always been the cause of wars. At one point, religion may have benn useful to humanity for purposes of constructing thories of law, in order to maintain stability in society, but we have long since come out of the bronze age. Never doubt who you are or feel as though you are instictively negative, you are an artist anyone who says otherwise is an confused or full of shit!
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in2ni Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
The question here is not to fight egoism. It has nothing to do with religion nor moral judgement about ego. Moreover, it seemed to me that Nietszche, in Zarathustra, considered the ego as the last illusion: isn't it a meaning of "become what you are"? This adage seems to me not contradictory with lot of non-western philosophies (erroneously called "religions"). Even if Nietzsche considered buddhism as a philosophy for weak people (who can not bear pain), his knowledge of Eastern thought was very limited by the few translations available in his time, and in fact he was especially critical against the Schopenhauer (mis-)understanding of Buddhism. Religion is not to confuse with a legitimate research: understand what we are, by ourselves, without any dogma nor contempt nor apriori.
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jaiquanfayson Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
I dont know much about buddhism (still taking classes) or Nietzszche and buddhism or eastern philosphy. I'm no fan of western philosophy either. What I am certain of is that without outside influences to react to there is no such thing as a true self, until your mother says that she is your mother you wont know, now you have become her child, you can never escape that, why try? Even if you feel the love between you and her, you cant describe the feeling without being given an outside influence, words to do so. My point is that we dont need to waste time searching for the impossible, that we should work toward a better more efficient existence. And if we arent against egoism, I honestly apologize for intruding..
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PsycheAnamnesis Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2012
I believe everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but to dismiss the opinions, theories or philosophies of others so blatantly doesn't add an absolute value to your own idea of truth. Just because in your self-made reality you can't grasp the idea of spirit, that doesn't mean it doesn't exist, that only means that you solely rely on empiricism for valid proof of anything 'real' and bind your sense of reality to materiality, which is a limitation to the physical realm that is only one aspect of reality. Have you ever seen love and can you rely on scientific experience and logical explanation to validate its existence? Maybe you've heard descriptions or seen what you've thought to be demonstrations of love, but the actual feeling or better said, state of being, you can't capture by using only the limited vision of your senses for perception.
Also, when you bring into discussion the negative effects of dogmatic and fanatic religion, don't confuse it with spirituality, which has nothing to do with what your beliefs are, but with your state of consciousness. You said never to doubt who you are. Well, who are you? Do you think you're the body your mind inhabits, that your thoughts should only be directed towards rational experiences? And what does a more efficient existence mean to you?
You can read whatever appeals to you, but how can you be sure that you understood exactly what the writer intended to express? Words are elusive in so many ways, language would be inert if it were not to be sustained by symbols that are individual to each of us according to our personal history, geographic location, education, mentality etc. In that context of background knowledge, even the highlighted word in this debate - egoism, has a different meaning for each of us, so we might not even be refering to the same notion.
You can feel free to express any ideas on this matter, but please try to restrain from calling someone a wacko or passing any kind of judgement on his confusion. Who's to say where the confusion actually lies?
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jaiquanfayson Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
Again, excuse me for intruding on your conversation. However either way you slice it, spirituality is a nonsense concept, there are no aspects to reality, a table is a table, you can interpret things how you want, you cant change fundamental facts. I didnt make my own reality and for you to be searching for yourself and then base that on a learned concept called spirituality is illogical. I'm searching for rational truths a nd facts and feelings are not enough for me. People commit suicide because they feel bad. I deal with logic and if we all dealt with it we would know that relativism, the idea that we are all entitled to our own belief is b.s.. Was Hitler entitled to his own beliefs, opinions, philosophies? yes. was he right? no. What about Charles Manson or David Koresh or Jim Jones? I am bound to this life and the material until anyone can prove otherwise, and I will continue to place humanity and flesh and blood splendor above consistently unproven concepts like spirituality. I have no appreciation or time for abstract distraction, none of us do, life is very precious and short. We should get to the concrete material reality and stop wasting our time trying to pacify our fears of the unknown with useless daydreaming... Abstract art, gothic art, anything that doesnt depict reality is meant to dumb you down. Kids start off drawing a bird the way they see it, beak and all, until they are told to draw that sloppy abstract "m" shape. That is the culture of religion to keep you in a cloud of useless thought away from the real world... same stuff been going on since the bronze age.. The illiterate of the future will be the people who cant learn, unlearn and relearn... I may have come across as being harsh, but I am very passionate about humanity, life, philosophy and art. I have lived alot I have spent years in prison and now I am on an uphill climb courtesy of a scholorship, I am attending the School of Visual Arts In New York city. I have experienced alot and many religions and concepts of spirituality and higher powers, but I can only attribute my success to me and the wonderful people around me that I can see touch and sometimes regretfully smell...
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PsycheAnamnesis Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012
As it generally occurs, we are too quick to judge based on appearances and our often misguided perception and then suddenly become ardently passionate about condemning anything that comes against our notion of right or wrong, real or imaginary.
I agree that one can't change some fundamental facts, but there's definitely more out there than meets the eye. For me spirituality is anything but a learned concept, I have always been against the blind belief in something that you're mentally conditioned to accept as valid or truthful, that's why I kept searching for my own idea of truth, insight and purpose, and the actual experience built up my faith in God and the intrinsic divine nature of all things. Before you have experienced, all belief is somewhat false, in my opinion. As a concept, spirituality is quite easy to misinterpret, especially since many people associate it with religion which has been suppressing, deceiving and manipulating the masses throughout history. It is not about doctrines, religious dogma or teachings of any kind that can give you knowledge but will make no actual difference on the quality of your consciousness.
Since you mentioned suicide, emotional pain might be an important aspect to take into consideration and this subject is not unfamiliar to me at all. Surely there are many reasons why people choose to take their own lives, but I doubt that happiness is one of them, so where do all the misery and suffering come from, besides in some cases the obvious difficult life circumstances? Isn't it possible that we have been too identified with form and thought, and thus have forgotten any deeper essence of our existence so that we have created a division in ourselves, a schizofrenia of the mind that brings up inner and outer conflict?
By focusing solely on the concrete material world, as you called it, you don't truly face your fears of the unknown, you're simply not willing to explore anything deeper concerning your own nature. I'm not trying to impose a spiritual philosophy on anyone, since its essential symbols belong quite exclusively to one's personal realm of experience, but take into consideration that it doesn't have as purpose the condemnation or annihilation of humanity, but quite the contrary. Many of us still have to learn how to honour and enjoy life in its diversity and complexity, by including everything there is to it and not by reducing it to a certain utilitarian purpose. Spirituality as such is not a concept of daydreaming, it can be contained in the expression of love for creation, life, humans, nature.
Giving horrific examples of humans who have taken their personal belief systems to the extremes it's quite obviously besides the point and it involves another source for debate, which has no place in this discussion and doesn't relate to my statement which was simply saying that I think you ought to respect the possibilty of different visions and mentalities, even though you don't agree with them. That doesn't mean one should be allowing athrocities to take place and defending perpetrators for the sake of their right to express themselves.
I'm not interested in debating the art subject because I see art as freedom of expression and I don't care about anyone else's sense of what art is nor do I find it necessary to fit any rigidly encapsulated form or pattern. The chance of an education might give you the ability to learn, to memorize and repeat, possibly a certain obsession with words and notions, but that for me is not indicative of a high intelligence, just like knowledge doesn't illustrate wisdom or any degree of depth.
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jaiquanfayson Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
We can debate ourselve in circles, but again, your logic simply doesnt add up. You say that spirituality belongs exlusively to ones personal realm of experience but you also said that its anything but a learned concept. Being aware of death, I am certainly in fear of that unknown, similarly, historically it is the fear of death that created the idea of spirit and the after life. Those ideas are the crutch that have allowed many before us to more readily accept death. My personal quest for a higher level of awareness goes beyond attempting to construct reality based on a fantasy in order to deal with the reality of life; that is not logical. Finally in your last paragraph you say that words arent indicative of a higher intelligence and yet you use so many. In your eyes you are right, but you arent aware that you cant escape the fact that you need to cater to your own ego even in that respect, the need for self justification... we are only free to live inside this life that we cant escape, we are inextricably tied to what we see, hear, touch, smell and taste and we base many of our emotions, actions and reasons outside of instinct on those things. The concept of spirit cant be felt or heard or touched or seen even under microscope, it never has and never will. It is a concept, just as much as thought and it comlicates by alluding to religious belief. I dont need spirituality in order to love something, I have emotions. Having any knowledge is enough to illustrate wisdom, ask any person who is ignorant of something. In sociology, words help formulate our reality, according to a bunch of objective and logical sociologists who were educated enough to write books on the subject, so me agreeing with them and my only having an associates degree means nothing..
I juts think you should trying to escape and look at the beauty of life right in front of you. Life is precious and for all we know, we will never experience it again, we need to focus on enjoying it before its too late. I apologize if I sound imminent, and I could be projecting, but I would hate to wake up and think that all of the years I have been wasting my time worrying about and studying empty concepts and forgot to go outside and feel the rain or smell a plant.
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PsycheAnamnesis Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012
I truly appreciate that you shared your inner concerns on this subject. I will express my own idea regarding this matter, although it might be brief because there's so much to say about it. First, think about what the ego is and how it is created. When a child is born, he has no consciousness of his own self, so the first thing he becomes aware of are others, thus beginning to create an external identity, a reflected center summing up what other people think about him. This is also when an ego can go ill, when the child doesn't receive appreciation or affection, his ego starts to feel sad, rejected, worthless. As the child grows up, more and more opinions are added to this false sense of self, so the ego is constantly being fed through the interaction with others. Still, I believe it is necessary to develop this false center, as a social by-product, in order to be able to discover your true self, by focusing your attention inwards. Society creates the ego, manipulates and controls it, but when you begin the journey within yourself and discover your true nature, that essence dwelling within yourself that the outer world has no real control over, then you can begin to shed a light on the ego, watch how it thinks, speaks and acts, and also recognize the collectively conditioned mental processes that usually perpetuate a negative state of mind. That is a way into awakening your consciousness and then being able to change certain mind patterns that were conditioned by the egoic mind without creating optimal results in your life circumstances. I don't think that you have to get rid of ego or fight against it, because resistance only brings up an equally opposing force, but you have to be fully conscious of how it operates so that you stop identifying with a predetermined mental state. Being freed from one's mind I think is when the real you, not the identity others have created for yourself, can take control over the mind and not the other way around. The mind is a wonderful tool, but it also can become highly destructive, if used wrongly, or better said, if you let it use you and you mistake it for who you are. We are body, mind, spirit, but in a state of unconsciousness we only identify with the name and form, with the physical body and the mind propelled by ego. Behind them, there's also a deep inner essence of being, a glimpse of light covered up by self-created darkness. Start monitoring your own thoughts and see what sort of reality they create for you, how easily they can push you into negativity. Like I said, there are lots of aspects to discuss here, one's widened perception is vital to get a deeper understanding of this theoretical philosophies, but I can recommend you this particular book: The Power of Now, by Eckhart Tolle.
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maxoulecter Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2012
fantastique!
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PsycheAnamnesis Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2012
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FabioKeiner Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
superbissimo
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PsycheAnamnesis Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2012
thank you :heart:
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