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egocentric by PsycheAnamnesis egocentric by PsycheAnamnesis
pictures of painted abstractions, artist unknown

“Most humans are still in the grip of the egoic mode of consciousness: identified with their mind and run by their mind. If they do not free themselves from their mind in time, they will be destroyed by it. They will experience increasing confusion, conflict, violence, illness, despair, madness. Egoic mind has become like a sinking ship. If you don’t get off, you will go down with it.”
- Eckhart Tolle
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Urus-28 Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
It's a shame that the artist is unknown the result is really interesting :p
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PsycheAnamnesis Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2012
I tried to decipher the signature and searched various combinations of the artist's name online, but nothing came up. I was so curious myself to see more of his/her work, but perhaps it's just one of those artists that remain anonymous, in obscurity.
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Urus-28 Featured By Owner Nov 25, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yes perhaps, it's a shame... :|
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martaraff Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012
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in2ni Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
However, egoism may be consubstantial to living beings? A natural mechanism selected by evolution? How to get rid of it without ceasing to live - actually or metaphorically?
And how to stop identifying with one's mental? If possible - what is being freed then from one's mind, if it is not the mind?
Please do not consider these questions as negative criticism toward these thoughts, which I am tempted to join. These are genuine, inner personal concerns... until now, without answers.
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jaiquanfayson Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
Maybe you would be interested in great philosophers Thomas Hobbes and geniuses like Friedrich Nietzsche, both of whom approved of egoism. Nietzche in fact had a profound effect on Sigmund Freud who is widely known for originating the theory of Id, ego and super-ego. The only way to learn is to read! There is no such thing as spirit. noone has ever seen one, rely on science experience and fact based logic and you will find your way! As an artist, a human and an advocate of the reality of life reason and science, I offer you to read and think hard about reality and not ideals or mythical concepts such as spirit. Eckhart Tolle is a wacko who is lost in an attempt to make money and find some new age religion, but religion has always been the cause of wars. At one point, religion may have benn useful to humanity for purposes of constructing thories of law, in order to maintain stability in society, but we have long since come out of the bronze age. Never doubt who you are or feel as though you are instictively negative, you are an artist anyone who says otherwise is an confused or full of shit!
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in2ni Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
The question here is not to fight egoism. It has nothing to do with religion nor moral judgement about ego. Moreover, it seemed to me that Nietszche, in Zarathustra, considered the ego as the last illusion: isn't it a meaning of "become what you are"? This adage seems to me not contradictory with lot of non-western philosophies (erroneously called "religions"). Even if Nietzsche considered buddhism as a philosophy for weak people (who can not bear pain), his knowledge of Eastern thought was very limited by the few translations available in his time, and in fact he was especially critical against the Schopenhauer (mis-)understanding of Buddhism. Religion is not to confuse with a legitimate research: understand what we are, by ourselves, without any dogma nor contempt nor apriori.
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jaiquanfayson Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
I dont know much about buddhism (still taking classes) or Nietzszche and buddhism or eastern philosphy. I'm no fan of western philosophy either. What I am certain of is that without outside influences to react to there is no such thing as a true self, until your mother says that she is your mother you wont know, now you have become her child, you can never escape that, why try? Even if you feel the love between you and her, you cant describe the feeling without being given an outside influence, words to do so. My point is that we dont need to waste time searching for the impossible, that we should work toward a better more efficient existence. And if we arent against egoism, I honestly apologize for intruding..
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PsycheAnamnesis Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2012
I believe everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but to dismiss the opinions, theories or philosophies of others so blatantly doesn't add an absolute value to your own idea of truth. Just because in your self-made reality you can't grasp the idea of spirit, that doesn't mean it doesn't exist, that only means that you solely rely on empiricism for valid proof of anything 'real' and bind your sense of reality to materiality, which is a limitation to the physical realm that is only one aspect of reality. Have you ever seen love and can you rely on scientific experience and logical explanation to validate its existence? Maybe you've heard descriptions or seen what you've thought to be demonstrations of love, but the actual feeling or better said, state of being, you can't capture by using only the limited vision of your senses for perception.
Also, when you bring into discussion the negative effects of dogmatic and fanatic religion, don't confuse it with spirituality, which has nothing to do with what your beliefs are, but with your state of consciousness. You said never to doubt who you are. Well, who are you? Do you think you're the body your mind inhabits, that your thoughts should only be directed towards rational experiences? And what does a more efficient existence mean to you?
You can read whatever appeals to you, but how can you be sure that you understood exactly what the writer intended to express? Words are elusive in so many ways, language would be inert if it were not to be sustained by symbols that are individual to each of us according to our personal history, geographic location, education, mentality etc. In that context of background knowledge, even the highlighted word in this debate - egoism, has a different meaning for each of us, so we might not even be refering to the same notion.
You can feel free to express any ideas on this matter, but please try to restrain from calling someone a wacko or passing any kind of judgement on his confusion. Who's to say where the confusion actually lies?
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jaiquanfayson Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
Again, excuse me for intruding on your conversation. However either way you slice it, spirituality is a nonsense concept, there are no aspects to reality, a table is a table, you can interpret things how you want, you cant change fundamental facts. I didnt make my own reality and for you to be searching for yourself and then base that on a learned concept called spirituality is illogical. I'm searching for rational truths a nd facts and feelings are not enough for me. People commit suicide because they feel bad. I deal with logic and if we all dealt with it we would know that relativism, the idea that we are all entitled to our own belief is b.s.. Was Hitler entitled to his own beliefs, opinions, philosophies? yes. was he right? no. What about Charles Manson or David Koresh or Jim Jones? I am bound to this life and the material until anyone can prove otherwise, and I will continue to place humanity and flesh and blood splendor above consistently unproven concepts like spirituality. I have no appreciation or time for abstract distraction, none of us do, life is very precious and short. We should get to the concrete material reality and stop wasting our time trying to pacify our fears of the unknown with useless daydreaming... Abstract art, gothic art, anything that doesnt depict reality is meant to dumb you down. Kids start off drawing a bird the way they see it, beak and all, until they are told to draw that sloppy abstract "m" shape. That is the culture of religion to keep you in a cloud of useless thought away from the real world... same stuff been going on since the bronze age.. The illiterate of the future will be the people who cant learn, unlearn and relearn... I may have come across as being harsh, but I am very passionate about humanity, life, philosophy and art. I have lived alot I have spent years in prison and now I am on an uphill climb courtesy of a scholorship, I am attending the School of Visual Arts In New York city. I have experienced alot and many religions and concepts of spirituality and higher powers, but I can only attribute my success to me and the wonderful people around me that I can see touch and sometimes regretfully smell...
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